The first shot of the first pilot of “What’s Up?” With Doctor K.
You remember about 20 years ago, I started to tell the saga of how Frank Nastasi, Soupy Sales’ puppeteer and sidekick, ended up co-starring on a show with me. Well, here’s the rest of it.
After the Soupy Show folded in New York, I stayed in touch with Frank, first by writing and then he gave me his phone number. My friend Ralph and I even went up to visit him. I forget exactly where he lived, but it was north of the George Washington Bridge. I’m sure there’s a New Yorker who reads this who will know what that neighborhood is called. Frank’s wife cooked us dinner — Coney Island dogs. It was a very nice gesture and we had a wonderful time talking to him.
Not long after this, we did the three black & white pilots that aired on the local Cablevision. Ralph was a student at Bucks County Community College and got us access to their TV studio on a weekend. As I recall, we borrowed the door from the Bucks County Playhouse in New Hope, Pennsylvania. Both Ralph and I had worked on the stage crew there and knew practically everyone that was running it at the time.
After completing Community College, Ralph transferred to Temple University in Philadelphia, where I was already going. I was a sophmore and Ralph was a junior, but we were in the same TV production class. When it came time to do our project, we decided we wanted to resurrect What’s Up? This time, we used a few of our friends, Marty Molitz and Denny Cahill, who at least both had performing experience, but we thought we ought to class it up a bit.
I had a 3/4″ U-Matic Videocassette deck when they were very new. My machine was a player only and I got a very reasonable price on it. I always suspected it was one of those items that “fell off the back of a truck”, but I needed the deck and didn’t ask questions. I had that machine for about 20 years. It finally broke in the Northridge earthquake of 1994.
Anyway, we hauled it up to New York and ran the three pilots for Frank. One thing I learned early on, you can’t show someone a program and then apologize for the things that you would have done better if you had more time. It has to stand on its own. But Frank could see through the amateurish nature and saw potential in our idea. He said he would be happy to be part of it. What’s more amazing is that he played second fiddle to me. But we were very careful in the writing to give Frank the funny lines.
We decided that to make it a little less like Soupy’s show, we would cut the pie-in-the-face, but we still had slapstick. In the final bit, it rains on me inside the house.
Frank came down and stayed at my house. We rehearsed the day before. This version was a bit more tightly scripted, but we still did the science experiment without trying it out ahead of time. Tape day came and because this was a class project, the show was only supposed to be fifteen minutes long. Well, I guess we got carried away, or overwrote, because the fifteen minutes went by so fast that we didn’t get everything we had planned into it. But then something else happened. We had requested that the show be recorded on the school’s professional quad videotape recorder, which uses really large rolls of 2″ tape, because we wanted to use this as a pilot for the show. Normally, they’d record on what were called helical scan decks, which is actually what your home VCR is, only these were more primitive and unreliable. Unfortunately, the school’s quad deck was also unreliable. At the end of taping, someone came into the studio and said that the tape didn’t come out. I actually laughed. I thought they were kidding. When I finally realized they weren’t and we were going to have to do it again, I blew a gasket. Now, I have to tell you, I’ve only been this angry two times in my life and this was the second one. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. I don’t exactly turn green, but I did storm into the corridor and literally rip a bulletin board off the wall. Ralph told me later that when they went to get me, they walked into the hall and all they saw were papers fluttering to the floor.
You have to remember, in the last bit in the show, I got soaked to the skin and we only had one costume. While my friends calmed me down, and dried me off, the teacher decided that since this was their fault, they would let us do the second show without the time limit. The clogged tape heads were actually a blessing in disguise because the pace of the new version was much better. It came out to about 20 minutes, which would have basically been a half-hour show with commercials.
But Frank really saved the second show. We did this in the first take, but we were so short on time, that we had to stop him. During the science experiment and history book segments, the cast was instructed to throw ad-libs at me from off camera. In the re-tape, Frank just went wild and made the show. It won’t read as well on the page as hearing Frank’s delivery, but one line was where I said, “Now I’m going to burn a candle underwater.” And without missing a beat, Frank said, “Are you going under with it?” I came back with, “Yeah, this whole show’s going under!” It was in the moment and very funny.
Obviously, we never sold the show or you would have heard of it, but working with Frank Nastasi was a joy. After I moved to California, I lost contact with Frank. I feel bad, because I was a lousy correspondent. Now he’s gone and after telling this whole story, I really miss him. Thanks for everything you did, Frank. I’ll never forget you.